Nick Shook#67 of 87 NFL pundits · Jul 21, 2025
Shook lays out the Giants' quarterback pecking order with Russell Wilson starting, Jameis Winston as the veteran backup and Jackson Dart third, predicts Abdul Carter beats out Kayvon Thibodeaux for the Giants' starting edge job, and assumes Tyler Shough wins the Saints' quarterback job.
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our reading, beside the words we read it fromRuss is gonna win the job because it's gonna be his job. Jameis is gonna be your backup, veteran backup.
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- The Top 59 (!) Position Battles of NFL Training Camp
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- SaidJul 21, 2025
- GradedAug 7–18, 2026
- 1Abdul Carter to be 1st on the depth chart“I think Carter wins this job, and I think it applies pressure to Thibodeau”
- 2Tyler Shough to be 1st on the depth chart“I would assume Shuck. Yeah, investments in him.”
- 3Jaxson Dart to be 3rd on the depth chart“and Dart's gonna be the ooh. I don't know, we don't know anything about him... But I think for now that's the way it lines up.”
- 4Russell Wilson to be 1st on the depth chart“Russ is gonna win the job because it's gonna be his job.”
- 5Jameis Winston to be 2nd on the depth chart“Jameis is gonna be your backup, veteran backup”
Box score
HitCloseMissWaiting| Verdict | Call | Kind | What happened | Score | Naive | Skill |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Abdul Carter to be 1st on the depth chart1 | Depth Chart Calls | No. 3 | 83.33 | 91.67 | −16.67 | |
| Tyler Shough to be 1st on the depth chart2 | Depth Chart Calls | No. 1 | 100 | 91.67 | +16.67 | |
| Jaxson Dart to be 3rd on the depth chart3 | Depth Chart Calls | No. 1 | 83.33 | 91.67 | −16.67 | |
| Russell Wilson to be 1st on the depth chart4 | Depth Chart Calls | No. 2 | 91.67 | 91.67 | 0 | |
| Jameis Winston to be 2nd on the depth chart5 | Depth Chart Calls | No. 3 | 91.67 | 83.33 | +16.67 | |
| 5 calls · 5 hits · all settled | 90 | 90 | ||||
How each call scored
a naive guessbetter than naiveworse than naive5 checkable claims — 5 depth chart calls — each graded on its own rather than as one all-or-nothing call.
It names 7 players and teams, each linked to their own record.
All 5 have settled, averaging 90 out of 100, against 90 for a naive guess at the same calls.
Each call is scored 0 to 100 against what happened, on its own, by the published methodology. The naive guess is what knowing nothing would have scored on the same calls; the gap, weighted by how hard the call was, is the skill.
Their call against what happened
Their call against what actually happened.
1Depth Chart CallsAbdul CarterNew York Giants
Abdul Carter to be 1st on the depth chart
What happenedNo. 3called No. 1 · by defensive snaps83.33Hit · naive 91.6783.33this call−91.67a naive guess=−8.34worse than naive×2difficulty=−16.67skillThink this is wrong?How this was scored
- club:
- NYG
- skill:
- −16.67
- player:
- Abdul Carter
- season:
- 2025
- accuracy:
- 83.33
- baseline:
- 91.67
- position:
- LB
- naive slot:
- 2
- actual slot:
- 3
- difficulty:
- 2
- measured by:
- defensive snaps
- the naive guess:
- no prior season — a rookie is assumed to start behind the incumbent
- weeks in the season:
- 18
- predicted slot:
- 1
- weeks left when called:
- 18
2Depth Chart CallsTyler ShoughNew Orleans Saints
Tyler Shough to be 1st on the depth chart
What happenedNo. 1called No. 1 · by passing yards100Hit · naive 91.67100this call−91.67a naive guess=8.33better than naive×2difficulty=+16.67skillThink this is wrong?How this was scored
- club:
- NO
- skill:
- 16.67
- player:
- Tyler Shough
- season:
- 2025
- accuracy:
- 100
- baseline:
- 91.67
- position:
- QB
- naive slot:
- 2
- actual slot:
- 1
- difficulty:
- 2
- measured by:
- passing yards
- the naive guess:
- no prior season — a rookie is assumed to start behind the incumbent
- weeks in the season:
- 18
- predicted slot:
- 1
- weeks left when called:
- 18
3Depth Chart CallsJaxson DartNew York Giants
Jaxson Dart to be 3rd on the depth chart
What happenedNo. 1called No. 3 · by passing yards83.33Hit · naive 91.6783.33this call−91.67a naive guess=−8.34worse than naive×2difficulty=−16.67skillThink this is wrong?How this was scored
- club:
- NYG
- skill:
- −16.67
- player:
- Jaxson Dart
- season:
- 2025
- accuracy:
- 83.33
- baseline:
- 91.67
- position:
- QB
- naive slot:
- 2
- actual slot:
- 1
- difficulty:
- 2
- measured by:
- passing yards
- the naive guess:
- no prior season — a rookie is assumed to start behind the incumbent
- weeks in the season:
- 18
- predicted slot:
- 3
- weeks left when called:
- 18
4Depth Chart CallsRussell WilsonNew York Giants
Russell Wilson to be 1st on the depth chart
What happenedNo. 2called No. 1 · by passing yards91.67Hit · naive 91.6791.67this call−91.67a naive guess=0better than naive×2difficulty=0skillThink this is wrong?How this was scored
- club:
- NYG
- skill:
- 0
- player:
- Russell Wilson
- season:
- 2025
- accuracy:
- 91.67
- baseline:
- 91.67
- position:
- QB
- naive slot:
- 1
- actual slot:
- 2
- difficulty:
- 2
- measured by:
- passing yards
- the naive guess:
- where he sat last season
- weeks in the season:
- 18
- predicted slot:
- 1
- weeks left when called:
- 18
5Depth Chart CallsJameis WinstonNew York Giants
Jameis Winston to be 2nd on the depth chart
What happenedNo. 3called No. 2 · by passing yards91.67Hit · naive 83.3391.67this call−83.33a naive guess=8.34better than naive×2difficulty=+16.67skillThink this is wrong?How this was scored
- club:
- NYG
- skill:
- 16.67
- player:
- Jameis Winston
- season:
- 2025
- accuracy:
- 91.67
- baseline:
- 83.33
- position:
- QB
- naive slot:
- 1
- actual slot:
- 3
- difficulty:
- 2
- measured by:
- passing yards
- the naive guess:
- where he sat last season
- weeks in the season:
- 18
- predicted slot:
- 2
- weeks left when called:
- 18
- All
The take as a whole
the average of 5 settled calls, each counted once
90naive 90
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