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David Pakman· Oct 22, 2024

Pakman gives his most likely presidential outcome: the 2020 map with Georgia and Arizona flipping to Trump, but Harris still winning the presidency with a narrower electoral margin than Biden. He says he is not ready to flip Pennsylvania or Wisconsin from the Democratic column, and that Trump probably won't win New Hampshire.

“It's the 2020 map with probably Georgia flipped to Trump. Likely Arizona flipped to Trump and maybe maybe a state like Nevada. Harris still wins in that scenario”

said on air, transcribed by us · The David Pakman Show · read the original →

6 checkable claims — 6 race winners — each graded on its own rather than as one all-or-nothing bet.

All 6 have settled, averaging 50 out of 100, against 16.7 for a naive guess at the same calls.

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6 checkable claims in this take

Each one is scored on its own against the published methodology. A pundit naming several outcomes is graded on each, not on all-or-nothing.

  • Race WinnersOct 22, 2024

    “Even if Trump does get New Hampshire, which he probably won't”

    Hit · 100Scored 100a naive guess scored 100+0 skill
    How this was scored
    right:
    yes
    race:
    2024-president-nh
    election year:
    2024
    skill:
    0
    topic:
    elections
    held going in by:
    Democratic
    in their words:
    Trump... probably won't
    result from:
    fec-2024-president
    who won:
    Kamala Harris
    accuracy:
    100
    baseline:
    100
    race name:
    2024 U.S. presidential election in New Hampshire
    decided in the:
    general
    they said:
    Kamala Harris
    days before the vote when called:
    13
    difficulty:
    1.02
    the winner's party:
    Democratic
    the naive guess:
    the party holding the seat keeps it
    Election Day:
    2024-11-05
    the result is:
    certified
    the party they named:
    Democratic

    Think this is wrong?

  • Race WinnersOct 22, 2024

    “If if you said, David, give me the most likely outcome today. It's a map. It's the 2020 map with probably Georgia flipped to Trump. Likely Arizona flipped to Trump... Harris still wins in that scenario, but with a smaller margin than Biden”

    Miss · 0Scored 0a naive guess scored 0+0 skill
    How this was scored
    right:
    no
    race:
    2024-president
    election year:
    2024
    skill:
    0
    topic:
    elections
    held going in by:
    Democratic
    in their words:
    the most likely outcome
    result from:
    fec-2024-president
    who won:
    Donald Trump
    accuracy:
    0
    baseline:
    0
    race name:
    2024 U.S. presidential election
    decided in the:
    electoral-college
    they said:
    Kamala Harris
    days before the vote when called:
    13
    difficulty:
    1.02
    the winner's party:
    Republican
    the naive guess:
    the party holding the seat keeps it
    Election Day:
    2024-11-05
    the result is:
    certified
    the party they named:
    Democratic

    Think this is wrong?

  • Race WinnersOct 22, 2024

    “Likely Arizona flipped to Trump”

    Hit · 100Scored 100a naive guess scored 0+102 skill
    How this was scored
    right:
    yes
    race:
    2024-president-az
    election year:
    2024
    skill:
    102
    topic:
    elections
    held going in by:
    Democratic
    in their words:
    Likely
    result from:
    fec-2024-president
    who won:
    Donald Trump
    accuracy:
    100
    baseline:
    0
    race name:
    2024 U.S. presidential election in Arizona
    decided in the:
    general
    they said:
    Donald Trump
    days before the vote when called:
    13
    difficulty:
    1.02
    the winner's party:
    Republican
    the naive guess:
    the party holding the seat keeps it
    Election Day:
    2024-11-05
    the result is:
    certified
    the party they named:
    Republican

    Think this is wrong?

  • Race WinnersOct 22, 2024

    “In Pennsylvania, Trump is leading by less than one. He's leading, but by less than one. I'm certainly not ready to flip it.”

    Miss · 0Scored 0a naive guess scored 0+0 skill
    How this was scored
    right:
    no
    race:
    2024-president-pa
    election year:
    2024
    skill:
    0
    topic:
    elections
    held going in by:
    Democratic
    result from:
    fec-2024-president
    who won:
    Donald Trump
    accuracy:
    0
    baseline:
    0
    race name:
    2024 U.S. presidential election in Pennsylvania
    decided in the:
    general
    they said:
    Kamala Harris
    days before the vote when called:
    13
    difficulty:
    1.02
    the winner's party:
    Republican
    the naive guess:
    the party holding the seat keeps it
    Election Day:
    2024-11-05
    the result is:
    certified
    the party they named:
    Democratic

    Think this is wrong?

  • Race WinnersOct 22, 2024

    “It's the 2020 map with probably Georgia flipped to Trump.”

    Hit · 100Scored 100a naive guess scored 0+102 skill
    How this was scored
    right:
    yes
    race:
    2024-president-ga
    election year:
    2024
    skill:
    102
    topic:
    elections
    held going in by:
    Democratic
    in their words:
    probably
    result from:
    fec-2024-president
    who won:
    Donald Trump
    accuracy:
    100
    baseline:
    0
    race name:
    2024 U.S. presidential election in Georgia
    decided in the:
    general
    they said:
    Donald Trump
    days before the vote when called:
    13
    difficulty:
    1.02
    the winner's party:
    Republican
    the naive guess:
    the party holding the seat keeps it
    Election Day:
    2024-11-05
    the result is:
    certified
    the party they named:
    Republican

    Think this is wrong?

  • Race WinnersOct 22, 2024

    “I'm not ready to flip Wisconsin. Trump's leading by only 0.4 there.”

    Miss · 0Scored 0a naive guess scored 0+0 skill
    How this was scored
    right:
    no
    race:
    2024-president-wi
    election year:
    2024
    skill:
    0
    topic:
    elections
    held going in by:
    Democratic
    result from:
    fec-2024-president
    who won:
    Donald Trump
    accuracy:
    0
    baseline:
    0
    race name:
    2024 U.S. presidential election in Wisconsin
    decided in the:
    general
    they said:
    Kamala Harris
    days before the vote when called:
    13
    difficulty:
    1.02
    the winner's party:
    Republican
    the naive guess:
    the party holding the seat keeps it
    Election Day:
    2024-11-05
    the result is:
    certified
    the party they named:
    Democratic

    Think this is wrong?

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